My testimony involves burning of villages with civilians in them, the cutting off of ears, cutting off of heads, torturing of prisoners, calling in of artillery on villages for games, corpsmen killing wounded prisoners, napalm dropped on villages, women being raped, women and children being massacred, CS gas used on people, animals slaughtered, Chieu Hoi passes rejected and the people holding them shot, bodies shoved out of helicopters, tear-gassing people for fun and running civilian vehicles off the road. (Laughter). If we had not taken action or cognizance of it, it would have been even worse. Hence the anger of some of the men who are here in Washington today. I enlisted in the Marine Corps for four years in 1967. Dischar… I can't imagine anyone communicating more eloquently than you did. [1] According to one of the organisers, William F. Crandell, “ The name "Winter Soldier Investigation" came from Tom Paine's first Crisis paper, in which he wrote: These are the times that try men's souls. Mr. Kerry, please move your microphone. And he goes to Vietnam and he shoots and he kills and he does his job or maybe he doesn't kill, maybe he just goes and he comes back, and when he gets back to this country he finds that he isn't really wanted, because the largest unemployment figure in the country- it varies depending on who you get it from, the VA Administration 15 percent, various other sources 22 percent. Winter Soldier Investigation ; Nam Vets Testify (All Ready on the Left, vol. My name is Paul Olimpieri. I was in Vietnam from '67 to '68. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do. We learned the meaning of free fire zones, shooting anything that moves, and we watched while America placed a cheapness on the lives of Orientals. (Laughter). NIENKE. As a veteran and one who feels this anger, I would like to talk about it. But the largest corps of unemployed in this country are veterans of this war, and of those veterans 33 percent of the unemployed are black. Mr. Kerry: Well, Senator, if I may answer you directly, I believe we are running that danger with the present course of withdrawal because the President has neglected to state to this country exactly what his response will be when we have reached the point that we do have, let us say, 50,000 support troops in Vietnam. We understand that. We have come here, not to the President, because we believe that this body can be responsive to the will of the people, and we believe that the will of the people says that we should be out of Vietnam now. It is party and parcel of everything. My testimony mainly concerns the maltreatment and murder of Vietnamese non-combatants and the general maltreatment of the civilian population. OLIMPIERI. The resolutions about which we have been hearing testimony during the past several days, the sponsors of which are some members of this committee, are seeking the most practical way that we can find and, I believe, to do it at the earliest opportunity that we can. It is a distortion because we in no way consider ourselves the best men of this country, because those he calls misfits were standing up for us in a way that nobody else in this country dared to, because so many who have died would have returned to this country to join the misfits in their efforts to ask for an immediate withdrawal from South Vietnam, because so many of those best men have returned as quadriplegics and amputees, and they lie forgotten in Veterans' Administration hospitals in this country which fly the flag which so many have chosen as their own personal symbol. I went straight into the Marine Corps from high school and I am now a student at Temple University in Philadelphia. These men have left all the casualties and retreated behind a pious shield of public rectitude. Suddenly we are faced with a very sickening situation in this country, because there is no moral indignation and, if there is, it comes from people who are almost exhausted by their past indignations, and I know that may of them are sitting in front of me. We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy. Mr. Kerry: My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. We are asking here in Washington for some action, action from the Congress of the United States of America which has the power to raise and maintain armies, and which by the Constitution also has the power to declare war. I served with Echo Battery 213 attached to 2nd Battalion, 27th Marines. I'm 21 years old and I'm a resident of Las Vegas, Nevada. It should be seen as one of the proudest moments of their lives. I'm 21. I'd like to welcome you all. And I think that is what will happen. The Vietnam Veterans Against the War organized this event called the Winter Soldier Investigation. BRONAUGH. Commentary: Listening Again to Lt. John Kerry on Vietnam. This individual, listed in the Winter Soldier Investigation transcript as Sgt. My name is Fred Nienke. SDS Bulletin. I am going to serve my country." But we are here as veterans to say we think we are in the midst of the greatest disaster of all times now because they are still dying over there, and not just Americans, Vietnamese, and we are rationalizing leaving that country so that those people can go on killing each other for years to come. I was a Corporal in the U.S. Marine Corps from '66 to '70. in the service. The "Winter Soldier Investigation" was a media event sponsored by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) from January 31, 1971 – February 2, 1971. We watched the U.S. falsification of body counts, in fact the glorification of body counts. The Marines say they never leave even their dead. I entered the Marine Corps shortly after graduating from high school. My name is Chris Simpson. Senator Aiken: But what I would like to know now is if we, as we complete our withdrawal and, say, get down to 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 or even 50,000 troops there, would there be any effort on the part of the South Vietnamese government of the South Vietnamese army, in your opinion, to impede their withdrawal? I understand 57 percent of all those entering the VA hospitals talk about suicide. Someone has to dies so that President Nixon won't be, and these are his words, "the first President to lose a war.". There are other actions not that extreme that have gone on and have been permitted. We do not need their testimony. The Killing of Richard Bunch . The Army says they never leave their wounded. Served in Vietnam '69-'70, Second Battalion, 26th Marines. The term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough. And a young man comes out of high school and says, "That is fine. We are asking Americans to think about that because how do you ask a man to be the last man to dies in Vietnam? They don't have the appropriations. I'll be talking about maltreating of prisoners, destruction of villages, crops and animals. In their blindness and fear they have tried to deny that we are veterans or that we served in Nam. Mr. Kerry: No, I do not believe that the North Vietnamese would and it has been clearly indicated at the Paris peace talks they would not. You've probably all heard the quotation "Ask a Marine." SIMPSON. Winter Soldier Investigation transcripts, Vietnam Veterans Against the War subject files. Winter Soldier 1972 ‧ Anti-war film/War ‧ 1h 36m This landmark documentary chronicles a 1971 meeting during which more than 100 American veterans spoke publicly at a Detroit motel about the inhumanity and brutality of the Vietnam War. One professor, Guenter Lewy, wrote a 1978 book that attacked the credibility of the Winter Soldier hearings, saying a Navy investigation found some coached or bogus testimony. They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country. (Laughter) (Applause), Senator Aiken: I think your answer is ahead of my question. The country seems to have lain down and shrugged off something as serious as Laos, just as we calmly shrugged off the loss of 700,000 lives in Pakistan, the so-called greatest disaster of all times. So that when we in fact state, let us say, that we will have a cease-fire or have a coalition government, most of the 2 million men you often hear quoted under arms, most of whom are regional popular reconnaissance forces, which is to say militia, and a very poor militia at that, will simply lay down their arms, if they haven't done so already, and not fight. Winter Soldier: [To Captain America] You should stay. We saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs as well as by search and destroy missions, as well as by Vietcong terrorism, and yet we listened while this country tried to blame all of the havoc on the Vietcong. And he stopped. I am telling what the Department says. But believe me the helicopter crews fill the same body bags and they wreak the same kind of damage on the Vietnamese and Laotian countryside as anybody else, and the President is talking about allowing that to go on for many years to come. Age 21; of New York. Senator Pell: Wouldn't you agree with me though that what he did in herding old men, women and children into a trench and then shooting them was a little bit beyond the perimeter of even what has been going on in this war and that that action should be discouraged. Thank you. Senator Aiken: I don't see why North Vietnam should object. I was attached to Echo Company, Second Battalion, 5th Marines. But all that they have done and all that they can do by this denial is to make more clear than ever our own determination to undertake one last mission, to search out and destroy the last vestige of this barbarous war, to pacify our own hearts, to conquer the hate and the fear that have driven this country these last 10 years and more and so when, in 30 years from now, our brothers go down the street without a leg, without an arm or a face, and small boys ask why, we will be able to say "Vietnam" and not mean a desert, not a filthy obscene memory but mean instead the pace where America finally turned and where soldiers like us helped it in the turning. I went to Vietnam in 1968. I think it lies with the men who encourage body counts. On September 23, 2004, another veteran recalls: I testified at the Winter Soldier investigation in 1971. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned. You said you wished to communicate. The setting of a date will accomplish that. I would, therefore, submit that the most expedient means of getting out of South Vietnam would be for the President of the United States to declare a cease-fire, to stop this blind commitment to a dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime, accept a coalition regime which would represent all the political forces of the country which is in fact what a representative government is supposed to do and which is in fact what this Government here in this country purports to do, and pull the troops out without losing one more American, and still further without losing the South Vietnamese. You have said that the question before this committee and the Congress is really how to end the war. I can see that you spent that time very well indeed. They only wanted to work in rice paddies without helicopters strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages and tearing their country apart. The term Winter Soldier is a play on words of Thomas Paine's in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough. We fought using weapons against "oriental human beings," with quotation marks around that. I would like to talk to you a little bit about what the result is of the feelings these men carry with them after coming back from Vietnam. I was in 1st Battalion, 5th Marines in Vietnam and my testimony is on killing civilians and killing livestock and destroying villages. 180. You can afford to charge bunkers, but I have to try and be here for 30 years and stay alive." But we are trying to do that, and we are doing it with thousands of rationalizations, and if you read carefully the President's last speech to the people of this country, you can see that he says, and says clearly: But the issue, gentlemen, the issue is communism, and the question is whether or not we will leave that country to the communists or whether or not we will try to give it hope to be a free people.
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